Talk:History of East Asia

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Contents 1 Attempt to grow this article 2 Vietnam 3 References 4 Restructuring

[edit] Attempt to grow this article

Hi. I know this is probably a difficult area of history to cover, since there is so much separate history for each east asian nation... But I think it would be helpful to readers to be able to piece together any kind of broad trends.

I've started by listing a bunch of wars. Already, you can see that the Mongol invasions are of huge regional importance.

I know this will never have a history as fluid or shared as the history of Europe, but my hope is that this comes even half way. I can already think of a few cultural events of regional importance:

• the start of Taoism and Confucianism
• the Mandate of Heaven, and how this affected notions of sovereignty and suzerainty for nearby powers.
• the arrival of Buddhism from India
• the surge of neo-confucianism (I think this affected the whole region, but I'm not sure)
• the advent and spread of gunpowder from China
• the spread of printing technologies from China
• the arrival of the Mongols and Europeans

Let's work together and do our best to make this a reality!

69.158.140.52 00:35, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

• This article is in very bad shape; the present organization of sections is very confusing; why does the religion come before general history? Why isn't religion part of the general history sections by time frame? Why is there an entire section on gunpowder? Not to say gunpowder shouldn't be mentioned and linked, but the main focus of this article shouldn't be on arsenal and firearms (afterall, this is not a military history article, but a general history of East Asia). Besides the obvious need for expansion in sections such as "1945 to present," this article needs some serious reorganizing. I might be up to the challenge, since I own books on general East Asian history.--Pericles of Athens^Talk 18:00, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Vietnam

Since this page is a listing of countries as a part of East Asia and although Vietnam might not be geographically part of East Asia, if you refer to East Asia it does include Vietnam as a part of cultural East Asia. Also, Vietnam (Annam) was subject to invasion from the Chinese and parts of Vietnams culture is adapted from Chinese traditions, like their zodiac, capital city, and language. I would argue that Vietnam should be on this list. Tortfeasor 22:32, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

I agree we can list Vietnam both in East Asia and Southeast Asia on many topics, just for reference purpose.

User:163.28.64.50

I agree that Vietnam should be on the list. If you can put part of Russia, (which is northeast Asia) on that list, Vietnam should be there too. The history of Vietnam is strongly linked with the other east asian nations, especially china. User: Tridungvo

[edit] References

The reference section is bad, with most of the ones cited having no more than a name and a date, which may be known to those already familiar with the literature, but for a beginner (like me) what's given is pretty much useless. They should definitely be expanded.

[edit] Restructuring

Does everyone agree that this page needs to be improved? I'm thinking about completely restructuring the article, because it is not nearly as organized as, for example, History of Europe and History of North America. Also, there is not much information here, and much of it doesn't fit very well. A whole section on the stirrup? If anyone has any objections, please let me know. Thanks! KingOfFruit (talk) 17:27, 20 June 2009 (UTC)