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[edit] When did this change to season?

This is a British TV series. We say series, not season. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.174.73.151 (talk) 13:29, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

I hadn't realised that the word season was being used for everything up to and including McCoy's tenure. I think this should be changed to fit in with the British use of the term "series" over "season". magnius (talk) 13:36, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
I've only been around for just over a year, and we've used season for the class series and series for the revived series for a least that time. See Wikipedia:WikiProject_Doctor_Who/Manual_of_style#Terminology. Edgepedia (talk) 13:44, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
"Season" is a longstanding usage for Doctor Who, dating at least back to the 1981 Doctor Who Programme Guide by Jean-Marc Lofficier. It's been continued in the modern era to distinguish "Season One" (1963–64) from "Series One" (2005). This distinction is used by all the reliable sources, including Doctor Who Magazine and the BBC's classic Doctor Who website.
This question comes up all the time. We should probably have a FAQ. —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 13:46, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
I noticed it's been changed. It's quite confusing to have two Series 1's etc. I think it should be changed back, besides the Doctor Who Classic Series website has them listed in 'Seasons' not 'Series'. Whoniverse93 talk? 15:14, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
I've already changed it back... Etron81 (talk) 15:19, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
The use of 'season' in place of 'series' is becoming more prevalent in the BBC, possibly due to the hiring of quite a few American managers in the BBC. However as someone who started watching Doctor Who in the 60s in B&W, I know that the word 'Season' was never used, it was always 'series' Bear in mind that WP is not actually a place to impose American/British/Indian English on the rest of the world. I would never change the spelling of a word in an article, predominantly set in the USA or being USA-centric, i.e.'favor' and 'favour' but to use 'Season' when writing about a British production, is factually incorrect. Check the Radio Times? Etron81, given you were only born in 1981 - based on your age - and are an American, you are actually trying to enforce, your POV on the rest of the world. It is incorrect, to refer to the Dr. Who series as seasons, simply because it sits better with your nomenclature. To say that "...it's been standard since 1981, by some people (non-English people at that) doesn't make it correct. I'll give it a week to be convinced, then I will change it to correct English nomenclature. Ragebe (talk) 16:21, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
I am not enforcing a POV based on age or nationality - I am merely following the MOS of the Doctor Who WikiProject. If concensus changes, I would be more than happy to use "series" for the classic yearly blocks of episodes. I would suggest you take your arguments to the talk page of the WP, as many many more articles than just this would be affected by such a change Etron81 (talk) 18:57, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
"I'll give it a week to be convinced, then I will change it to correct English nomenclature." Not without consensus you won't, otherwise you will be hypocritically guilty of enforcing your own POV on the article, and doing so will constitute vandalism. Please see Wikipedia:WikiProject_Doctor_Who/Manual_of_style#Terminology as previously advised. magnius (talk) 17:29, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
Use of "Season" on official BBC site Doctor Who: Classic Series. magnius (talk) 17:38, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
"Not without consensus you won't, otherwise you will be hypocritically guilty of enforcing your own POV on the article.." Yes, that's a valid point. However, I do think that enforcing - what is in effect - an imperialistic view of using USA nomenclature on a British production, in which the majority of people familiar with the subject, would be of British origin, based upon the views of a very few commentators, amounts to a very dictatorial standard. Bear in mind that the whole point of WP, is to allow view-points from all over the world and forcing Britsh people, to read about a British production, using American nomenclature, amounts to imposing a philosophy, more akin to European Empire building in the 19th century. Ragebe (talk) 22:29, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
Sorry but it's a myth that season/series is a UK/US difference. "Season" was used in Who production paperwork right from the beginning and is the term used in numerous reference books and articles by British authors. Timrollpickering (talk) 22:57, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
Americans use Season because their programmes go on over usually half of the year, therefore it covers a season, hence the Seasons, while British programmes usually broadcast in a shorter time. The old Doctor Who used to run episodes over a longer period of time and never used to be like a Series (usually every week). Whoniverse93 talk? 23:19, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

"Americans use Season because their programmes go on over usually half of the year, therefore it covers a season..." Um, there are 4 x seasons in a year, or roughly 3 x months each, or a quarter of a year?

The Doctor Who episodes - that I watched, religously - in the 1960s and 1970s, had 4 to 8 episodes per series and started just after tea-time (or 5 o'clock-ish for the younger viewer, just before The Clangers) and lasted for half an hour. Each episode, was broadcast on a weekly basis. I'm quite shocked at how poorly educated all you supposedly Doctor Who fanatics are about this. It's basic facts, easily found with a search of the internet. Ragebe (talk) 23:42, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

I'm not stupid! Plus I was taking the dates shown of the first season of Doctor Who from this article so if I'm wrong with that then the article is wrong! Whoniverse93 talk? 00:08, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
Please do not confuse "series" with "serials", as the classic seasons are often called. We call them "seasons" because most sources call them seasons. Wikiepdia does not offer a channel for viewpoints, 'imperialistic' or ohterwise; we only deal with verifiable information. — Edokter • Talk • 00:33, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Matt Smith = Series one?

Someone just told me that DWM stated that Matt Smith's first series of Doctor Who will oficially be listed as "Series One" because of the new Doctor/Showrunner...does anyone have a copy of the latest issue?

"The new series of Doctor Who, the 31st since the programme began way back in 1963, will officially be produced as 'Series One'. reflecting the change in Doctor and Production team." - The Official Doctor Who Magazine (issue 410, June 2009)

Apparently...

magnius (talk) 15:21, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

I strongly strongly doubt it. So far, it's always been referred to as "Series Five". However, I don't have the new DWM (I thought it was out next week), so I can't verify this until later. Sceptre (talk) 15:57, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
Follow-up: I've just checked the DWF. Apparently, what you say is true. However, it's only internal and I am sure that it'll be referred to as "season 5" in all over contexts. Sceptre (talk) 16:00, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
probably best to wait and see how it's promoted at the time - they may still release it as "series 5" come March 2010. 86.131.237.120 (talk) 10:41, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] "Other stories" should include BBC7 serials and other broadcast radio dramas

Whilst I appreciate that this page should not include all the spin-off CDs produced by Big Finish et al (List of Doctor Who audio plays by Big Finish already does this admirably), I do think that those stories which have been broadcast by the BBC (and only those broadcast by the BBC) should be briefly listed, or at least mentioned, in the Other Stories section. This would include the Eighth Doctor BBC7 radio plays (the four broadcast Charley Pollard serials and the three seasons of Lucie Miller stories thus far) and the Third Doctor radio plays The Paradise of Death and The Ghosts of N-Space. Apologies if this has been discussed before; I checked back two archives' worth but found no recent discussion on this. Andrew Oakley (talk) 08:55, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

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