Talk:Siege of Petropavlovsk

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Contents 1 Source of reference 2 Allies 2.1 United Kingdom 2.2 France 3 Russia 4 31-30 = 1

[edit] Source of reference

It seems this article is full of conjectures; reference and sources must be given, so that article can be validated. The fact that exactly 500 Brits and French died and exactly 100 Russians died is just obscene and least believable casualty report ever.Mic of orion (talk) 18:53, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

What's wrong with the sources given in the References section? From what I see, there's plenty to go on with verifying any statement this article makes. As for the casualty report, I don't believe the numbers were intended to be exact; looks like they've been rounded to a nearest hundred.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 19:40, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

Makes me think, what else is made up or rounded up in this made to believe article, sorry, but I find Russian information sources to be lead by ideology and not reality, if this article is to be believed it must have independent sourced and in English so that it can be verified by everyone who visit this page. Mic of orion (talk) 16:00, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Sources are sources are sources. As long as a source is considered reliable (by Wikipedia standards, not by your perceptions), it can be used, regardless of what language it is in. The sources used in this article are definitely reliable (albeit not necessarily sufficient). Also, if you do happen to have sources in a language other than Russian, by all means feel free add them, the article will only get better for it.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 23:41, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Allies

Commanded by Rear Admiral David Price

[edit] United Kingdom

• HMS President (52-gun fourth-rate, flag) - - Captain Richard Burridge
• HMS Pique (40) - Captain Sir Frederick William Erskine Nicolson, Bt.
• HMS Virago (paddle sloop) - Commander Edward Marshall

[edit] France

Commanded by Rear-Admiral Fevrier-Despointes:

• Forte (60) (flag)
• Eurydice (22) - Captains de La Grandiere
• Obligado (18)

[edit] Russia

Commanded by Rear-Admiral Poutiatin:

• Aurora (44) (frigate)
• Dvina (12) (transport)

[edit] 31-30 = 1

The article stated that the Allies broke off bombardment on 30 Aug, but returned "within two days on 31 Aug." "Within two days" in that case is redundant, if not contradictory, so I took the liberty of removing the phrase. If that constitutes "independent research," then I can cite Prof. Stephen Haycox, "Alaska," p.137, who says the bombardment took place on two consecutive days.

Terry J. Carter (talk) 23:21, 16 August 2008 (UTC)